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#ProdChat – 08/2/17 – Positivity or Pessimism: Which Is More Productive?

#ProdChat – 08/02/2017 – Positivity or Pessimism: Which Is More Productive?

On August 2, 2017, #ProdChat discussed the topic, Positivity or Pessimism: Which Is More Productive? Optimism, positivity, pessimism, and negativity have particular connotations, especially among managers in businesses. But, how do these emotional perspectives really affect personal productivity? Watch the slideshow to see what the productivity enthusiasts on #ProdChat had to say about “Positivity or Pessimism: Which Is More Productive?” Enjoy!

Questions:

  1. Are pessimists or optimists more productive?
  2. How does positive thinking benefit your productivity?
  3. How does pessimism or contemplating obstacles benefit your productivity?
  4. On the flip side, how does pessimism hurt your productivity?
  5. Does the constant societal pressure to be optimistic and confident help or hurt your productivity?
  6. Does work culture optimism or pessimism affect your productivity? How so?
  7. What are ways you can be more optimistic to benefit your productivity?
  8. What are ways that you can use pessimism (or realism?) for greater productivity?
  9. How can you overcome overly pessimistic perspectives that are inhibiting your productivity?
  10. Will you be more positive or pessimistic about your #productivity after today’s #ProdChat?

8/9/17 – Offline Productivity

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Raw transcript:

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rsidneysmith Welcome to #ProdChat, the weekly chat for productivity enthusiasts! https://t.co/C40vBaCeQb https://t.co/TV1rvn9jR1 Wed Aug 02 23:59:00 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith Today on #ProdChat we’re discussing “Positivity or Pessimism: Which Is More Productive?” Join us! #productivity https://t.co/1pHImVebrb Thu Aug 03 00:00:01 +0000 2017
JKatzaman Joining #ProdChat from Maryland to talk about the merits of positivity vs negativity. Thu Aug 03 00:01:49 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith So, let’s start! In a tweet, introduce yourself. #prodchat https://t.co/UA7hyls88n Thu Aug 03 00:02:00 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith @JKatzaman Hi, Jim! How’re you today? #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:03:17 +0000 2017
JKatzaman @rsidneysmith Doing fine, Ray, watching the occasional storm pass by. #ProdChat Thu Aug 03 00:04:11 +0000 2017
drjlwells Hola from #SMTX! #ProdChat https://t.co/Q59431TnKN Thu Aug 03 00:04:39 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith @JKatzaman Glad to hear, Jim! Stay dry up there! :) #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:04:50 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith What’s a #productivity success you’ve had this or last week? #prodchat https://t.co/7A2WrOx2GU Thu Aug 03 00:05:00 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith @drjlwells Good evening, Jeremy! How’re you today? #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:05:03 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith Intro: Ray S., @evernote Certified Consultant. Productivity Trainer. Host, #ProdChat among other things: https://t.co/1VpSEEDKdf. :) Thu Aug 03 00:05:41 +0000 2017
drjlwells @rsidneysmith Well thanks! #ProdChat Thu Aug 03 00:05:42 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith Please add #prodchat to tweets. Questions will come as Q1, Q2, Q3. Answer A1, A2, A3, for readability! https://t.co/rhWp4fbNna Thu Aug 03 00:06:00 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith #Productivity Success: I’ve completed a project this week that had been plaguing me for about a month! So glad to see it done! #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:06:33 +0000 2017
drjlwells Managing to keep up with work despite have an almost-three-week-old at home! (Thanks to great wife & mom-in-law)… https://t.co/0ZoHFaiTkN Thu Aug 03 00:06:45 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith @drjlwells Congrats on the new wee one, Jeremy! I know too well the travails of having a newborn (my mum had three… https://t.co/5haGxCAUdD Thu Aug 03 00:07:40 +0000 2017
PG_pmp #ProdChat hello everyone ….happy good morning Thursday…from INDIA Thu Aug 03 00:07:48 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith Let’s talk about being productive using different screen sizes for different tasks! #prodchat https://t.co/ATuWUNO05q Thu Aug 03 00:08:01 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith @drjlwells And for the record, I love each and every one of them! #BestSiblingsEver #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:08:14 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith @PG_pmp Hello, Piyush! How’re you this fine morning? #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:08:30 +0000 2017
ArtGelwicks Good evening productive people! #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:08:40 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith @ArtGelwicks Top o’ the evening to ya, Art! How’re you? #ProdChat Thu Aug 03 00:08:56 +0000 2017
ArtGelwicks Doing well. Back from day 2 of my new running program #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:09:55 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith Q1: Are pessimists or optimists more productive? #prodchat https://t.co/O63IzjaPnV Thu Aug 03 00:10:00 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith @ArtGelwicks Nice! I’m taking a break from my first day of vacation, for #prodchat. Hehe. Shhhhh! ;) Thu Aug 03 00:10:16 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith @ArtGelwicks Hope you had a good run! I’m going for a run in Lincoln Park (Chicago) tomorrow morning…looking forward to it. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:10:42 +0000 2017
JKatzaman A1 Optimists have the spirit while pessimists might have a better, sober perspective on what it takes to get the job done. #ProdChat Thu Aug 03 00:11:39 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A1: I’m on the fence and looking forward to hearing from others today on their perspectives. I think it’s not a clear-cut answer. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:11:39 +0000 2017
ArtGelwicks A1: No evidence for this but I think pessimists are more likely to procrastinate, hence being less productive #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:11:42 +0000 2017
drjlwells A1. Tough to say. Optimists probably take on too many things, whereas pessimists might suffer too much from imposto… https://t.co/whsnC799Vf Thu Aug 03 00:11:48 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A1a: Also, I know what the research says, and I don’t want to spoil it. :-P #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:12:11 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A1b: I do believe that you need to harness your optimism or pessimism for its strengths, & minimize its weaknesses in your system. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:13:44 +0000 2017
PG_pmp @rsidneysmith A1: it depends if optimistic taking unrealistic approach they may lose the track..#prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:13:49 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A1c: Otherwise, your optimism will give you rose-colored glasses, and your pessimism will consume you. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:14:02 +0000 2017
drjlwells RT @rsidneysmith: A1c: Otherwise, your optimism will give you rose-colored glasses, and your pessimism will consume you. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:14:29 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith Q2: How does positive thinking benefit your productivity? #prodchat https://t.co/62Li6BmR22 Thu Aug 03 00:15:00 +0000 2017
ArtGelwicks A1: Honestly I think pessimists and optimists can be equally productive with the right processes #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:15:10 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A2: I see positive thinking as leaning into your ability to accomplish something when the going gets tough. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:15:40 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A2a: I also see positive thinking as a neutralizing agent to Debbie Downers in a pessimistic work culture. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:16:05 +0000 2017
ArtGelwicks A2: Focusing on positive outcomes provides motivation and energy for me. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:16:14 +0000 2017
JKatzaman A2 Positive thinking keeps hope alive, knowing things will come out all right in the end. #ProdChat Thu Aug 03 00:16:55 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A2b: Aiming upward (not too high a la Icarus) gives you a sense of purpose, which can be very motivating if used appropriately. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:17:04 +0000 2017
drjlwells Necessary for developing “vision of wild success” for planning new project (Natural Planning Model), as @GTDguy say… https://t.co/h6aRzGRh4N Thu Aug 03 00:17:15 +0000 2017
ArtGelwicks A2a: There has to be a balance though because without balance, a positive attitude can lose it’s impact #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:17:45 +0000 2017
ArtGelwicks A2a: There has to be a balance though because without balance, a positive attitude can lose it’s impact #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:17:45 +0000 2017
PG_pmp @rsidneysmith A2:positive thinking may help one to set right direction & collaborate easily with stakeholders for better outcomes #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:17:59 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith @drjlwells @gtdguy Yes, and fits well in the model of start with a powerful outcome, then get realistic (pessimisti… https://t.co/2IU5saQSlZ Thu Aug 03 00:18:08 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith @drjlwells @gtdguy I think it’s Dr. Gail Ottingen who uses WOOP –> Wish, Outcome, Obstacles, Plan. This takes adva… https://t.co/B5hTX4fcyf Thu Aug 03 00:19:20 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith Q3: How does pessimism or contemplating obstacles benefit your productivity? #prodchat https://t.co/NcagXRJwMX Thu Aug 03 00:20:01 +0000 2017
drjlwells I like that, like a project planning version of #SWOT analysis. #ProdChat https://t.co/LedV3bBpqt Thu Aug 03 00:21:01 +0000 2017
JKatzaman A3 You at least need to be aware of obstacles. Pessimists might see problems to fix that optimists can gloss over. #ProdChat Thu Aug 03 00:21:39 +0000 2017
drjlwells A3. In middle of working toward PMP cert, and getting really interested in risk analysis. #ProdChat https://t.co/ubwrhfy8va Thu Aug 03 00:22:04 +0000 2017
drjlwells Following @MilenaRodban, who has interesting approach to risk using simulations, which I love using in my Int. Rels. tchng. #ProdChat Thu Aug 03 00:23:09 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith @drjlwells Risk analysis is quite a fascinating subject, especially related to PM. I think the ins. industry has so… https://t.co/kQU9IuaCBm Thu Aug 03 00:23:15 +0000 2017
drjlwells @rsidneysmith HS math tchr always told us to be actuaries. #IfOnlyIdListened #ProdChat Thu Aug 03 00:24:00 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith @drjlwells @MilenaRodban Nice! The research supports a bit of pessimism to assess risk using visualization/forecast… https://t.co/GPmdGXEjcZ Thu Aug 03 00:24:29 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith Q4: On the flip side, how does pessimism hurt your productivity? #prodchat https://t.co/CVR3NmaKmO Thu Aug 03 00:25:00 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith @drjlwells Lucrative career, most definitely. I wish my English professor had told me to become a Data Scientist, but hey! LOL #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:25:09 +0000 2017
PG_pmp @rsidneysmith A3: it helps to first analyze the pros & cons & then adopt the approach which will beneficial for longer term #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:25:26 +0000 2017
ArtGelwicks A3: Pessismisim allow for the planning of worst case scenarios and being prepared for situations #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:25:28 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A4: Pessimism can make projects and teams make a mad dash for the bottom…in terms of demotivation, lowering standards and goals. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:26:20 +0000 2017
drjlwells A4. @GregoryMcKeown’s #Essentialism, which I appreciate, taken too far turns into Imposter Syndrome. Debilitating.… https://t.co/i79fDSy6Nb Thu Aug 03 00:26:25 +0000 2017
PG_pmp @rsidneysmith A4: when one is unable to take even calculated risks which may hurt productivity…#prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:26:46 +0000 2017
JKatzaman A4 Pessimists are bad if they put the brakes on everything, always deferring to the status quo. #ProdChat Thu Aug 03 00:26:50 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith @drjlwells @GregoryMcKeown So true. Scarcity for its own sake is a bummer, dystopian even. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:26:52 +0000 2017
drjlwells @GregoryMcKeown I say that because honing down to just a few #essential things makes each more critical, raising stakes. #ProdChat Thu Aug 03 00:27:31 +0000 2017
drjlwells RT @rsidneysmith: @drjlwells @GregoryMcKeown So true. Scarcity for its own sake is a bummer, dystopian even. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:27:35 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A4: Pessimism, at some degree, leads to ruminating, blaming, and limiting valid options..becomes status quo instead of innovation. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:28:55 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith Q5: Does the constant societal pressure to be optimistic and confident help or hurt your productivity? #prodchat https://t.co/C9k1K4dt45 Thu Aug 03 00:30:00 +0000 2017
prodbookgrp Did you miss a #productivity book club discussion and want to listen to it? Catch up here: https://t.co/RzMPV84Dn2… https://t.co/htWEStS60E Thu Aug 03 00:30:16 +0000 2017
drjlwells A5. Similar/related issue: extrovert ideal pushes for positivity, interactivity, when I just want to be left alone… https://t.co/QSos0JPkTD Thu Aug 03 00:31:36 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A5: I think the current research is making managers press pessimists with the wrong behavior interventions for optimal success. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:31:45 +0000 2017
JKatzaman A5 Pressures from society — no matter the intent — are bad because you run the company, not outsiders. #ProdChat Thu Aug 03 00:32:09 +0000 2017
drjlwells @SusanCain does a great job explaining extrovert ideal from #introvert perspective @LiveQuiet #ProdChat Thu Aug 03 00:32:21 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith Correction: I think the curren research indicates that managers are pressing… #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:32:27 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith *current #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:32:35 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A5: I believe all productive views should be brought to the table so silencing a minority view is limiting your resources. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:33:34 +0000 2017
PG_pmp @rsidneysmith A5: if others do not understand the risk of the system & approach it may hurt #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:33:36 +0000 2017
drjlwells Need brainstorming methods that facilitate diversity of ideas, not produce groupthink that reinforces dominant few.… https://t.co/9e78NacpFn Thu Aug 03 00:34:22 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith Q6: Does work culture optimism or pessimism affect your productivity? How so? #prodchat https://t.co/FCEtsZpcvt Thu Aug 03 00:34:38 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith @drjlwells Yes, like brainswarming. https://t.co/7cu6mDnsP1 #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:35:40 +0000 2017
drjlwells A6. Managers’ pessimism about complaints from clients militates against out-of-box thinking. #SoWhatsNew #ProdChat https://t.co/KJ4wuHOmvA Thu Aug 03 00:36:05 +0000 2017
drjlwells RT @rsidneysmith: @drjlwells Yes, like brainswarming. https://t.co/7cu6mDnsP1 #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:36:10 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A6: When I step into many work cultures, I think an overabundance of optimism or pessimism is debilitating to progress. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:36:11 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A6a: It means there’s something engrained in the culture that dismisses or prohibits the minority’s feelings/views. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:36:46 +0000 2017
JKatzaman A6 Productivity is a mix of optimism and pessimism. You have sights on a goal while being sure to hit milestones, fix problems. #ProdChat Thu Aug 03 00:37:42 +0000 2017
PG_pmp @rsidneysmith A6: work culture has huge impact…it affects collaboration & coordination which hurts productivity #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:38:55 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith Q7: What are ways you can be more optimistic to benefit your productivity? #prodchat https://t.co/IpCfysO1yG Thu Aug 03 00:40:00 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A7: I try to catch myself when I’ve spent too much time thinking about possible neg. outcomes. Knowing 1% risks aren’t necessary. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:42:32 +0000 2017
JKatzaman A7 Having a good grasp of your people and needs will breed confidence that feeds into optimism. #ProdChat Thu Aug 03 00:42:56 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A7: I try to partner with optimistic people when I’m pessimistic about a specific project. Again, it’s a balancing act. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:43:06 +0000 2017
drjlwells A7. Do a #SWOT analysis, and seek at least balance; then, focus on Strengths & Opportunities. #ProdChat https://t.co/ZbKUKYBhLa Thu Aug 03 00:43:30 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A7: I will garner faster feedback loops for projects I’m pessimistic about so I can see quick successes to build momentum. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:43:45 +0000 2017
drjlwells I like that one. My wife always provides a boost, esp. for application materials. #BiggestFan #ProdChat https://t.co/pSe9tntGXT Thu Aug 03 00:44:17 +0000 2017
PG_pmp @rsidneysmith A7: when one has studied the system thoroughly, person/team can be more optimistic for next steps #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:44:52 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith Q8: What are ways that you can use pessimism (or realism?) for greater productivity? #prodchat https://t.co/9xM5ZwQIBD Thu Aug 03 00:45:00 +0000 2017
prodbookgrp Join us for our next #Productivity Book Group live discussion! https://t.co/n14akGjZH4 #prodchat https://t.co/KCSAPsQKOE Thu Aug 03 00:46:00 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A8: I really like @drjwells use of #SWOT analyses for determining weaknesses/threats upfront. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:46:17 +0000 2017
drjlwells A8. Focus on essential, prevent scope creep, add in time & budget buffers, establish controls. #ProdChat https://t.co/AdtQvi3KOA Thu Aug 03 00:46:50 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A8: I look to surveys and comments from my audience regarding constructive, critical feedback that shows areas of improvement. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:46:57 +0000 2017
JKatzaman A8 Delegate troubleshooting to a pessimistic team member. That person will more likely see problems to resolve before anyone else. #ProdChat Thu Aug 03 00:47:25 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith @JKatzaman Good suggestion, Jim! I like that. #noted #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:47:45 +0000 2017
drjlwells Same here! #ProdChat https://t.co/Cmpm093BUL Thu Aug 03 00:48:12 +0000 2017
drjlwells RT @rsidneysmith: A8: I really like @drjwells use of #SWOT analyses for determining weaknesses/threats upfront. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:48:24 +0000 2017
PG_pmp @rsidneysmith A8: when one understand all the risks, & hve planned mitigation, contingency in d system 2 move ahead with reality #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:49:41 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith Q9: How can you overcome overly pessimistic perspectives that are inhibiting your productivity? #prodchat https://t.co/GVWGsImgJw Thu Aug 03 00:50:00 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A9a: I find that I get serious when I’m really productive, and that can be a mood killer for the people working around me. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:51:04 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A9b: So, I take “happy breaks” when appropriate to lighten the mood and expose myself to laughter and sunlight. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:51:39 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A9c: I feel like (no empirical data) that this counteracts the pessimism/negativity borne out of those “serious” periods. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:52:26 +0000 2017
JKatzaman A9 Show pessimists how you have used their inputs and how that has benefited progress, along with optimists’ suggestions. #ProdChat Thu Aug 03 00:52:51 +0000 2017
PG_pmp @rsidneysmith A9; by adding some optimism 😀….let build trust in others & create our risk registers well to move ahead #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:54:35 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith Q10: Will you be more positive or pessimistic about your #productivity after today’s #ProdChat? https://t.co/RaWgZqaOKR Thu Aug 03 00:55:00 +0000 2017
JKatzaman A10 I’ll keep a good outlook on productivity and be sure to consult with unbiased more analytical people for sanity checks. #ProdChat Thu Aug 03 00:56:44 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A10: I’m probably going to do a bit more of both! #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:56:47 +0000 2017
PG_pmp @rsidneysmith A10: yes there is always a take away after wonderful discussions #productivity #ProdChat? Thu Aug 03 00:56:54 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith Next week’s #ProdChat: “Offline #Productivity” Join us! https://t.co/gdWEToDsVI Thu Aug 03 00:57:00 +0000 2017
drjlwells A10 Little of both! More realistic on what I can accomplish w/in limits & more optimistic in what I can achieve giv… https://t.co/XxC9HKNiLt Thu Aug 03 00:57:48 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith A10a: But, when possible, err on the side of optimism and positivity, since I tend toward realism/pessimism. #prodchat Thu Aug 03 00:57:49 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith Have a great rest of your week, all! Thanks! #productivity #prodchat https://t.co/U70S7CTdUG Thu Aug 03 00:58:00 +0000 2017
drjlwells Looking forward to it! #ProdChat https://t.co/1afdANWqve Thu Aug 03 00:58:01 +0000 2017
rsidneysmith Thanks, #productivity enthusiasts, for attending #prodchat! See you in next week! @prodchat https://t.co/VIB7XgAP6B Thu Aug 03 01:01:01 +0000 2017
w3consulting RT @rsidneysmith: Thanks, #productivity enthusiasts, for attending #prodchat! See you in next week! @prodchat https://t.co/VIB7XgAP6B Thu Aug 03 01:01:52 +0000 2017
prodbookgrp RT @rsidneysmith: Thanks, #productivity enthusiasts, for attending #prodchat! See you in next week! @prodchat https://t.co/VIB7XgAP6B Thu Aug 03 01:01:52 +0000 2017
prodchat RT @rsidneysmith: Thanks, #productivity enthusiasts, for attending #prodchat! See you in next week! @prodchat https://t.co/VIB7XgAP6B Thu Aug 03 01:01:52 +0000 2017
GTDPhilly RT @rsidneysmith: Thanks, #productivity enthusiasts, for attending #prodchat! See you in next week! @prodchat https://t.co/VIB7XgAP6B Thu Aug 03 01:01:52 +0000 2017
prodcastshow RT @rsidneysmith: Thanks, #productivity enthusiasts, for attending #prodchat! See you in next week! @prodchat https://t.co/VIB7XgAP6B Thu Aug 03 01:01:52 +0000 2017
gtdpgh RT @rsidneysmith: Thanks, #productivity enthusiasts, for attending #prodchat! See you in next week! @prodchat https://t.co/VIB7XgAP6B Thu Aug 03 01:01:52 +0000 2017
gtddc RT @rsidneysmith: Thanks, #productivity enthusiasts, for attending #prodchat! See you in next week! @prodchat https://t.co/VIB7XgAP6B Thu Aug 03 01:01:52 +0000 2017
gtdnyc RT @rsidneysmith: Thanks, #productivity enthusiasts, for attending #prodchat! See you in next week! @prodchat https://t.co/VIB7XgAP6B Thu Aug 03 01:01:52 +0000 2017
focusatwork RT @rsidneysmith: Thanks, #productivity enthusiasts, for attending #prodchat! See you in next week! @prodchat https://t.co/VIB7XgAP6B Thu Aug 03 01:01:52 +0000 2017
drjlwells RT @rsidneysmith: Thanks, #productivity enthusiasts, for attending #prodchat! See you in next week! @prodchat https://t.co/VIB7XgAP6B Thu Aug 03 01:03:06 +0000 2017

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